Melanie Wilson (00:00)
Bethany, thank you so much for joining me here on the Homeschool Sanity Show. Before we dive into our topic, which I am very excited about, I would love to have you tell us more about you and your family.

Bethany (00:13)
Yes, so I am a homeschool mom. have five kids, three bio and two adopted. So there's a whole story there for another podcast maybe. But we... ⁓

We live in the Midwest and we take each kid each year as to what they need, what their goals are and what the Lord is calling them to do. And we just try to be really creative with their education and think outside of the box to be able to give them what they need and not what someone else thinks that they need. So we started taking our oldest, the kids are 14 to 21 now. And when our oldest went into kindergarten, we took her to our full time

private school at a Christian school and we had a great experience but I just missed her and a lot of my friends were homeschooling. I never really considered it at all and wasn't exposed to it too much growing up but that journey just you know we I couldn't leave her every time I missed her and I just thought about her and what she was doing and who she was doing that with and so we just took the plunge we started homeschooling and once our youngest was four we

adopted so we've had our kids in all kinds of educational experiences, college credit plus, public school, online public school, lots of different kinds of co-ops and some gap unschooling years as well. So we have a very eclectic journey.

Melanie Wilson (01:46)
Wow, well that is really interesting and I don't think, excuse me.

Bethany (01:57)
Okay? You're good. This is life. Yeah.

Melanie Wilson (01:57)
I don't, yeah, sorry. Okay, we'll give it another go. Okay,

I don't think I've ever heard anyone say that one of the reasons that they chose to homeschool is because they missed their child while they were at school. And I love that because that is absolutely how I felt when I went back to work, even part time as a psychologist. And I was...

Bethany (02:21)
Okay.

Melanie Wilson (02:24)
Horrible for me. I wanted to be with my baby. So being with your children as much as you want to is a fantastic benefit of homeschooling

Bethany (02:33)
Yeah.

That's my reason it's authentic. No judgment for other people who love sending their kids. That's okay. Each kid each year, each parent, the homeschooling journey really needs to fit the parent who's doing it. And if that looks peaceful, if that's where you're supposed to be, it just, again, it just needs to be to fit you and your family.

Melanie Wilson (02:39)
I love it.

Yes, I love that. And it sounds like you could help to coach and direct new homeschoolers because you've tried so many different approaches. So I love that.

Bethany (03:12)
have tried and when for new homeschoolers my number one advice is find someone who has a personality like you as the parent and just see what they do. So instead of you know even your friends like if they there are so many ways to homeschool especially with the internet there's so many options absolutely like nothing there was nothing like that when I first started. So if you find someone who has a personality like you as the parent I think there's a better chance that you'll be successful in trying what they try and then

and starting having that as your foundation.

Melanie Wilson (03:46)
That is excellent advice and I could have given that advice myself. I love it. Okay, so let's start talking about theater. The first thing I wanna know is how you got involved in theater. What was inspiring to you about it? And it sounds like you maybe have an unusual journey about how you got involved.

Bethany (03:50)
Mmm ⁓

do and I encourage people to write down like a to-did list to-did you know of their life and just all the things that they've done and especially now that I'm you know close to being an empty nester and a grandma that it's like okay what is my next season of life gonna look like and if you write a list of all the things that you've done and really add to that list as you're like yeah I did this and this and that I did everything but theater. ⁓ My the thing that I

Melanie Wilson (04:36)
you

Bethany (04:39)
I think I'm best at, which I hope everyone can brag about themselves. What are they good at? What has the Lord gifted you in? And to be confident in that and not ⁓ try to hide it under a bushel. Is event planning. And I am able to just see an event straight through and how it's going to be most effective, most fun, most enjoyable and impact people's lives. So I started a theater or a teen club that was just before COVID, which was perfect timing to keep

all my homeschool teenagers together.

Right, so I started a club. We started doing dances. We would just say hey everybody meet at the park for volleyball It was an Instagram everybody followed it and they would just meet places. There was no actual agenda. It was simply to provide ⁓ Mostly the high schoolers but middle schoolers would come to them and experience without their parents But that there were a couple parents there each time to monitor to make sure everything went well. There was purely about Socialization and having fun very student-led I would just

give them the goal and then they would come. And eventually that turned into one of my friends said, hey why don't we try a theater production? Because I have a barn. And I'm like, I'm like okay and so we just did it. We got a script, we got online and I'm like alright. And after a couple years I recognized how complicated theater is. It was either complicated, inappropriate, or it was Bible or history based.

Melanie Wilson (05:54)
okay.

Bethany (06:11)
And for me, as a graduate of the Columbus College of Art and Design, I'm like, why are we categorizing the arts? Why can't we just create to be creative? And especially now that there's ⁓ AI and the jobs that our kids are going to be pursuing are maybe even jobs we haven't considered. We really need to encourage our kids to be entrepreneurs and to create new things and not recreate. I know I've said a lot right there.

Melanie Wilson (06:26)
Mm-mm.

Bethany (06:41)
But so so that might the event planner and me started writing theater ⁓ Simple theater so it's that more about like little women in the attic or the dead poet society often a cave You know, creating things having a goal but also not making it necessarily educational Because creativity is not something that you can measure

Melanie Wilson (07:04)
Hmm. So you actually started writing scripts for theater?

Bethany (07:10)
I did, and I do, and I am. So, ⁓ I have a website and all of my, that was a fire engine. I have a website and I was tired of rewriting everything. And I also really like, half of the year we do a big play and the other half we do a variety show. So it's a little bit more like a Saturday Night Live experience. And that really gives kids that.

Melanie Wilson (07:21)
Okay.

Okay.

Bethany (07:38)
the break of the high-pressured play and then we have a super fun, we even make it at dinner theater sometimes. So I started writing basically like Saturday Night Live experiences where if you purchase a variety show package, you get skits with flexible casting and then improv skits where the kids actually don't even know what they're gonna do until they get on stage in front of ⁓ the audience. And then there's an MC script that goes with that. And with all of my content that I write,

Pinterest board that goes with it. So every year I'm putting out two new themes. Last year was pirate and Caribbean sun and now this summer I'm writing an African safari and a western.

Melanie Wilson (08:20)
And so you now are providing these scripts for sale for other groups to use. Is that correct?

Bethany (08:31)
Yes, and there...

One of the things that I noticed within theater and even the arts is that the kids have the opportunity to join a theater company. And you've got the elements that I didn't really care for where there's the tryouts, lots and lots of free time backstage with kids that you don't know. You know, because it's okay. I value those experiences, but it's also like, what are we doing? And then also the content is something that they've already seen. And so you're,

It is more about copying and making a good performance as opposed to the experience of becoming a leader and bringing the gifts that the kids are, the things that they're interested in to the performance, which is what I encourage people to simplify that theater process so that it can be about a creative, know, like Shakespeare in the park, you know, and where it was really truly about the people who are producing it, their loved ones that are going to come watch them do it and how that can

help launch them into their future careers and develop them as a person and give them hobbies that they can continue into adulthood.

Melanie Wilson (09:42)
Wow, well, I am just so impressed. I really am. No, I'm not laughing. I'm laughing in surprise. I am honestly just astonished at the journey. And it hasn't been that long, you know, just since COVID, right? ⁓

Bethany (09:46)
You're laughing at me. You're like, what do do with you?

What?

Sort of, that's why I encourage people to write that list of what are all the things that you've done in your life that it's like, did I really do that? Because when I was in high school, I was a professional clown with my mom. I don't think clowns exist anymore. You so that plays into what I'm doing now writing the curriculum on how I do have a handbook on For Sale on Amazon for how to start a simple theater club for people that want to take it seriously. But and I would host hen parties in my barn where, know, like all these things led to

Melanie Wilson (10:08)
you

Bethany (10:34)
me creating what my kids needed and ⁓ I just see that need in the community and now there are five local mad society clubs, music, and drama in my area. So it's kind of become like a church planting thing and I'm still trying to figure out how do I help people, how do I make this palatable and adaptable to what their needs are, which are very unique. Each community has a different story about like this is what we have, ⁓ how does it

it.

Melanie Wilson (11:05)
Well, I just love it because I feel like you became in essence a homeschooled student and you were kind of unschooling yourself and just kind of like going where your interests led and the need and there was a need there too. And I just I just think it is remarkable as someone who

Bethany (11:27)
Yeah.

Melanie Wilson (11:33)
as I told you before we started chatting, I do have a theater background. I was in theater all through high school, absolutely loved it. And then I was less enthralled in college for a number of reasons, probably reasons that you've already mentioned. And then when I had ⁓ kids who were interested in theater, the church that we were longtime members of had a

Bethany (11:54)
Hmm.

Melanie Wilson (12:03)
very sophisticated and still does a theater program that involves people from the community. And as you were talking about, you you don't know ⁓ what's going on behind the scenes when your kids are spending time with people. That was a particular issue because our church was inviting theater people. These were serious theater people.

to come to our church to help with performances, but they weren't even necessarily believers. ⁓ So, you know, it actually went very, very well, I will say, because there were so many people backstage, including many, many church members, that I think it was just fine with my kids being back there. But I could absolutely see in other settings where that would be a concern.

⁓ So, you know, I'm just so fascinated because most theater people, in fact, maybe all theater people that I've ever known have been lifetime theater people. They've just, they've always loved it. And so here you are, ⁓ just kind of like new on the scene and doing something amazing with it.

Bethany (13:16)
Yeah.

Well, I-

seen as you know like a different way because you want to provide an artistic goal for what kids are good at to be showcased and so if you think about sports if you think about just all the all the ways that you you should be able to see what your child is good at and the thing about theater and especially the way I've structured it where I try to make it a student led as possible is that we can actually showcase those leadership skills

Melanie Wilson (13:35)
Mm-hmm.

Bethany (13:55)
and

work on social skills and emotional IQ and entering into a character role and recognizing, ⁓ I'm supposed to be the bad guy. And what does that feel like? And how do I come across? like just there's so many beautiful things about theater that you don't have to be a theater kid ⁓ to be able to get so much benefit from it. And that's why when I started doing it for my teenage club, I thought, ⁓ my goodness, like

Someone that's interested in doing a soundboard can practice that in my barn or or director if they don't want to act I let them be student directors or they can be the ticket sales manager or you know Just like all or the birthday person the person that puts happy birthday on the app and they've got organizational skills so bringing leadership things Is something really unique about theater if you can keep your expectations small

⁓ then the kids can develop far more than just presentation skills.

Melanie Wilson (15:02)
Absolutely, and I had never really thought of that, but you are so right because, and acting out a character when kids are in a performance role, you are absolutely correct that it helps students understand emotions, it helps them understand relationships, both good and bad. And I'm thinking about

Bethany (15:24)
you

Mm-hmm.

Melanie Wilson (15:32)
all the different roles outside of performance that students can take. Like I know some people who won an award for lighting and they had never done lighting in a theater production before. ⁓ So there's that and like you're saying, it's the tech. It can be marketing where you have students responsible for getting the word out, getting some ticket sales. ⁓ It could be art where they

Bethany (15:55)
Yep. Yeah.

Melanie Wilson (16:01)
helped to create a program and certainly with with the props right ⁓ so much art is required. Yes!

Bethany (16:08)
Costumes you've got fashion. Yeah, so what I do at the

beginning What I do at the beginning of each session is I have a free handout if you go on my website ⁓ It's called I'm unique. I'll use it. And so I have the kids fill out it kind of asks them What are your hobbies? What do you think you're you're gifted in and then I have on the page it challenges them to be like How can I utilize that? How can I bring that to our theater club? And I think it works for all areas of life. How can I bring that to my family life? How can I bring that to my basketball?

team or my youth group, just really challenging kids to just ask the Lord, are the things that you're gifted me at? What are the things I'd like to explore safely? Because part of the way you recognize what you're good at is trying new things and being like, yeah, no. I don't like that. And that's OK, too. You want to give them those experiences where they have some ownership in how they spend their time and what they participate in.

Melanie Wilson (17:09)
I just love that too. And it's so interesting to me that just this past Sunday, my husband and I teach first grade Sunday school and the icebreaker question we were to ask them was, what is something you're good at? And you will not be surprised that many, many of those kids had no idea. I don't know, I don't know. So.

Bethany (17:33)
Yep. Yeah.

Melanie Wilson (17:37)
I love that you are helping kids explore and they aren't even going to know. And of course, when they just first do something, they might not be great at it. Of course.

Bethany (17:52)
No. ⁓

Well, we're not, none of us are. We're all born and we're infants and we're not good at anything but scrying, you know, crying and screaming and pooping and that's it. And so anything that anyone ever gets good at, it's because they, there was a process and they decided to go through that process and become good at something. And it is so sad. And I would say most adults are the same way where they, they actually, what am I gifted? I had a friend once that was like, you have so

Melanie Wilson (17:55)
Right.

Mm-hmm.

Bethany (18:23)
things you're good at and I'm not good at anything and I'm thinking it's sad I will say that that like artistic stuff or visual things you can see and so there's reality like if we talk about this why does she think I am more gifted or talented than she is it is not accurate we are all made in God's image we are all capable of all things through Christ and so I am no more gifted or talented than any other human being we I am no more I'm only capable of what I say yes to

with the Lord and if I don't know what I'm good at and I don't know what I like and I don't have those precious things that you can that I understand I'm supposed to do with the Lord then it's just being lost and having adults purposefully point out in children the things that are good about them it is so quick and simple and as a leader in this this simple theater stuff I get that opportunity to tell kids constantly.

Melanie Wilson (19:05)
Mm.

Bethany (19:22)
the good things that I see in them. I hope that all leaders, all parents recognize just really simple nuggets can completely shift a person's life if you have those good validating words and not saying... You can say the same thing two ways. You can shame and try to teach or you can inspire and have them think on their own and teach the same thing. I just like that about theater. It's a happy community. It's a joyful community.

You

get to have cast and crew parties and games and mixers and it's just super fun.

Melanie Wilson (20:00)
And one thing I don't think that we've really mentioned is what a great opportunity it is for your kids to make close friendships. I have been speaking to homeschoolers for the past two years about how to help their children make friends. And my point is that your children are unlikely to make close friendships if ⁓ these three characteristics are not.

present. First, where there are a number of kids, potential kids to make friends with, right? So it's not, it may not work if there are only a couple kids. So there are a number of kids. And then next, that they have an opportunity to talk with other kids, either one-on-one or in small groups. So that is key. But then the final piece is that they need to have the opportunity to talk about personal

Bethany (20:34)
Hmm.

you

Melanie Wilson (20:59)
topics. So if you have students in a class like my kids were in a science lab and so my son had a science lab partner. So he had the opportunity to talk one on one right. So that should have been great but he had no opportunity to talk about personal things. They were only doing their science experiments. They were not spending any time together outside of science lab. So in theater you have all three. You have all three because

Bethany (21:23)
Mm-hmm.

Melanie Wilson (21:28)
There are times when they're not just working on the project or listening to you or to someone else who is their leader. They're talking about their personal lives. can we talk about, yes, I mean, can you talk about the growth that you have seen in students because of their participation in MAD Society?

Bethany (21:35)
Mm-hmm.

They're backstage. Yeah.

The people group that I find it is most valuable for are the special needs kids. Neurodivergent, ⁓ physical, all that. does take a special, the leader has to be very, again, creative and also okay with the results. ⁓

Theater again allows spaces for someone in a wheelchair or someone who has a stutter You know they can take apart that is the dog and they don't have to you know To use to speak they can be the dog or they can be the student director and it is challenging but I have you know kids that are dyslexic or ⁓ Just even just not secure very few teenagers are

know who they are and are kind with it. know, some people are confident, but...

Melanie Wilson (22:47)
Yeah.

Bethany (22:49)
They are young and their brains aren't fully baked until they're 25 anyway. So ⁓ I would say that is the most beautiful part where I've been able to integrate kids where they watch their brothers play on the basketball team and they're never going to get to do that because they're in a wheelchair. And so I get to integrate them into theater and build their college resume with things that theater can provide. And it's actually really creative. I'm like, okay, you're going to be the social media director, like you said, for marketing the play.

That is an amazing thing to put on a resume and they're not going to check up to see how big or small your theater club is. So if you're a five kid theater club in your living room, give it an impressive title and put that on your application anywhere you want. And people, that's a relational thing that if you're being interviewed, they're going to be like, tell me about that. And you can. So see, what was your question?

Melanie Wilson (23:33)
you

You just answered it beautifully and ⁓ I have actually seen this. ⁓ One of my friends, her homeschooling friends, she actually runs a large homeschooling support group here in our community and her son was in a wheelchair and participated in so many ⁓ theater and ⁓ musical.

Bethany (24:18)
Mm-hmm.

Melanie Wilson (24:18)
⁓ events and just, mean, he brought joy to us. and, and I know that he enjoyed it and his mother, of course, his parents both just loved it so much. So I just couldn't say enough positive things about you. ⁓ identifying that as, as a goal that you have.

Bethany (24:24)
Yes, of course. Yeah.

Melanie Wilson (24:47)
for a theater is including kids who have special needs. ⁓

Bethany (24:51)
Right,

and so our youngest two that are adopted have many, diagnoses and has made life very challenging. ⁓ So I am really digging into what the homeschool community looks like kind of for the first time as I'm trying to promote music, art, and drama at Simple Theater.

⁓ Because I didn't have that luxury because we have a really hard adoption story. ⁓ But my adopted kids fit in. They fit into theater. And it was, it's the single most positive thing that I've had as far as interaction ⁓ outside of parenting with my adopted kids. Because we, it's a little selfish, but I we were kind of the cool family because we're providing this social experience.

that they could be part of and at the end of this cool experience they all get to get up on stage and win together. There's no we lost a game, we lost a championship, and I'm all for those experiences where you lose and I'm not I did listen to your podcast about we are not giving out participation trophies. However, this isn't about that. This isn't about giving any trophies. This is about we won together. We accomplished something together as a community and hopefully

Melanie Wilson (25:55)
Hmm.

Bethany (26:13)
know, showing the body of Christ, like all the things that you can bring together just like you hope your church does. And they're all young and they get to experience that together. So for me and my adopted kids, this, I'm speaking from experience and what it has done for them.

Melanie Wilson (26:32)
Well, I'm just so impressed. my plan, Bethany, was to ask you, for homeschoolers without a theater background, what can they do? I mean, you don't have a theater background.

Bethany (26:48)
I don't,

I don't, I don't.

Melanie Wilson (26:51)
So, but

I am curious, okay, so I imagine that we have inspired a number of homeschooling moms who is primarily listening to us ⁓ to try this. And so what are some ways that they can get started if they want to use a program like what you have begun?

Bethany (27:16)
Right, so I wrote what I wrote based on the fact that I've never done theater.

Everything that I have put out there is an event planned well with the goal of a performance. So even if you just purchase one single skit and put it on your table and you and your children decide we're going to ⁓ do a skit together as our artistic goal, you can watch your kids be like, I want to do this, I want to do that. Get on the Pinterest board that goes with it and they can start getting ideas or ⁓

So just as simple as you just start there with your family give them an artistic goal and say we're gonna perform it on our family vacation or we're gonna perform it at Thanksgiving ⁓ or we'll invite the neighbors or you can ⁓ Make it more complicated, but I would just start there. Just start with you and your kids You don't have to have an art curriculum a music curriculum anything big and complicated ⁓ To give them a goal for which they can be creative

So I do have a YouTube video on how to do that process specifically if you find the YouTube video on how to have a simple theater in your living room. But then the other thing I really want people to be able to do, this is also all over social media, is what I call the hobby lobby stroll. So you're going to take your kids or your grandkids and commit to spending an hour at Hobby Lobby and stroll up and down those aisles slowly and don't micromanage this or influence your kids in any way shape or form but see what they pick up.

see what they read, look at all those creative things that they can actually do with their hands and when they if they get into something if they get excited about something find a way to integrate that into your little theater performance that you're gonna have in your living room. It's also a really good way to find Christmas gifts. Take your kids to Hobby Lobby.

Melanie Wilson (29:07)
Really?

I love that. So, I mean, okay, so what if, I'm just very curious now. So what if my daughter ⁓ picks up one of those rug loom kits that I had when I was a kid? ⁓ What would you do with that potentially, besides a Christmas gift? ⁓

Bethany (29:26)
Mmm.

You could make a costume, could make a costume, you could make a

wig, you could make, so you could go in reverse. You could go backwards and say, okay, my kid loves stop motion videos. Could we make this skit out of Legos? The same, like that there would be like a skit. Or they like video editing. Could we just video it and post it everywhere? So working backwards, what does your kid like to do? You give them that simple goal of we purchased a script so we have a goal together to work

together to work on leadership skills to work on interpersonal relationships all of that and so it's really just like funneling it into a goal but also bringing those cool things. So yes if your child likes to do those loom things I would actually ask chat GPT, say chat GPT. My daughter likes the loom we I don't know what they're actually called and we're gonna be doing a skit about you know the primate tale about a chimp and a

Melanie Wilson (30:07)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

That's great!

Yeah, and the rug loom thing, yeah.

Bethany (30:33)
chimpanzee, a orangutan, and a monkey. How can I integrate the fact that she likes to do that into a skit? You will be shocked. This is the way we need to be using AI is that we can, it can think creatively to inspire those, push it a little bit further, and it will give you, I promise, it will give you like 10 ways that you're like, oh my goodness, and your daughter will be so excited, and they will actually take ownership of their own education when they're excited.

Melanie Wilson (30:41)
Yes.

Bethany (31:02)
about what they're doing.

Melanie Wilson (31:04)
That is so

true. Well, I just love this. Okay, so this is how I would like us to close out. ⁓ Let's say we have a mom who's thinking, this is so cool, but.

Bethany (31:17)
You

Melanie Wilson (31:19)
But what are some of the buts that moms are thinking of right now and how would you refute those?

Bethany (31:23)
Get in the way. ⁓

If your kid is excited about this, they'll do it on their own.

Melanie Wilson (31:31)
Mmm.

Bethany (31:32)
Let

them do it on their own. Give them a script. Let them invite some friends over. Be in the room so that they don't end up being labeled as bossy. But you actually get to help and watch those things and ⁓ sort of mentor them through that process of what does it look like to be someone who loves theater for their whole life or to be a leader or to be the director or to be the star of the skit. So consider that your child might not need you in this process. ⁓

Melanie Wilson (32:00)
Mm-hmm.

Bethany (32:02)
say they don't have time to do that. So also think about well what am I spending my time on? What are my kids spending time on? And are there some things in there that are actually not necessarily required that they don't like? And can we be okay with having them not know how to diagram a sentence?

for the sake of them saying, I'd like to start an ice cream cart. I'd like to be an entrepreneur. I'd like, you know, like releasing, definitely releasing, ⁓ again, what you think their career is gonna be and if they have to go to college. And I know a lot of homeschoolers don't want their kids to go to college. And I think we have to open up all those doors and let them pick which ones they're gonna go through. And so not limiting, it's just very important to encourage

them, where they're at, who they are, what they're good at, and the Lord will direct each one of those steps. So not being afraid of college, but also not pressuring them to go to college. ⁓

Melanie Wilson (33:15)
Yes. You know what, Bethany?

I can tell that we could probably have, I could probably set up like 10 podcasts with you on various subjects and they would all be awesome.

Bethany (33:25)
Well, yeah, because

I have my, have two in college and they, ⁓ you know, we thought very outside of the box to get them. ⁓ They both almost, they got 90 % scholarships because we basically, like I was, it's not unschooling, it's just really like specifically, we're not gonna waste our time. We're just not gonna waste our time. I never taught them grammar. I didn't.

Melanie Wilson (33:54)
You know you're talking to a grammar curriculum author, right?

Bethany (33:59)
I know, and your psychology too, and I'm like, ⁓ please don't analyze us.

Melanie Wilson (34:04)
No, I won't.

Bethany (34:06)
But if that is what your kid, know, I'm an artist and so I, we need all different kinds of people and we need people that understand grammar. We have to have that and ⁓ if I'm gonna keep pushing my business out there, I have to hire people who have skill sets that I don't have and I am so thankful for them. I'm so thankful for them but you just, ⁓ can't live vicariously through your kids. You have to let them tell you what they wanna do.

Melanie Wilson (34:15)
Mm-hmm.

Bethany (34:36)
Some kids do want to do grammar. I just didn't have one of those. We've got piano, Japanese, real estate, and psychology. So, yes.

Melanie Wilson (34:38)
Yeah. ⁓

Okay, okay. All right, so

Bethany, tell us where we can ⁓ get our hands on these scripts. What is your website and where is the best place to get in touch with you online?

Bethany (35:02)
madsocietyinc.com and that'll, you know, I've got a blog that'll show you everything I have for sale. And YouTube and Pinterest are probably the most fun ways to just be exposed to what does simple theater look like, how could we provide that, and especially Pinterest for getting your kids excited about each script or the creative writing escape rooms. I also have a free escape room on my website that is like a choose your own story and your kids enjoy

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running a skit. So that would be another way. So I am into some like English language arts. It's not like off the table because I write. And so I recognize the importance of getting some things correctly. However, I do put all my theater scripts through. How would a cowboy say this? And it is not grammatically correct. Or pirates? my goodness, pirates. No one was homeschooling those pirates. my goodness. So yeah, go to my website.

Melanie Wilson (35:43)
you

No worries, no judgment.

Okay, okay,

Bethany (36:00)
INC, INC. Yeah, just like Monsters Inc.

Melanie Wilson (36:01)
madsocietyinc.com. Okay, and then Bethany, will you send me the link to the YouTube video where you are explaining how to get started and I'm gonna put that in the show notes.

Bethany (36:11)
Yeah, further.

Yes, I will.

Melanie Wilson (36:18)
Thank you so very much. This has been a joy. I have obviously had a great time chatting with you and I'm so excited about what you are doing. So thank you for sharing with us.

Bethany (36:31)
Thank you for what you're doing.